Really???no comment at all or is everyone still stunned.
Come on,kakashi spamming susano has to be the last straw for the naruto bitching book club. So where are they?
@gentle.. Haha! That’s so true, not to mention the entirely shady way in which he got the sharingan to begin with.
The rasengan attack w each of the tailed beast was a pretty sweet spread on one page. Not so sure wth happened after that, I may need to read it again or a different translation. W this manga wrapping up, I’m hoping everyone loses their super powers pretty soon so we can finish in classic hand to hand combat. I’m thinking this rasengan may be the first step in doing so as it appears to be keeping Kaguya from using her god powers. Guess we will see.
I call BS. It was cool but all the laws were broken, So is Obito, a saint or what. He uses Kamoi to come (in chakra form) from the afterlive (someone call the shinigami..).
What buggs me is that Kakashi (a normal person, not a Uzumaki/ Uchiha/ Senju) is capable of using not one, but two Mankego at the same time.. Hey, it was previously stated that he doesn’t have a big chakra reserve. And the last nail in the coffin is that Kakashi was able to use perfect susanno (from the get go). Not even Itachi (and he was a genius) was able to use that.
So, this chapter was written by Michael Bay….
Yep, still stunned. Kakashi broke like several records in this one chapter. The first and only non-uchiha ninja to have both sharingans implanted in his eyes, have MS in both of them and used susanno.
Speaking of susanno, he unleashed it immediately afterwards, which, as far as we know, not even Madara or itachi have done. Even took sasuke a bit of practice, and itachi practically handed him the cheat codes.
…so is he just gonna keep walking around with both sharingans always activated like Nagato with the rinnegan and itachi? He used kamui so many times in this war he should be used to it by now, but wont he get drained of chairs rather quickly too? Or did obito fixed that too?
0_0 I think I was mistaken. I don’t think Kakashi will have to worry about low chakra reserves and always activated eyes anymore. Look at the Susanno. Obito did more than just give kakashi his eyes and chakra. In fact Obito didn’t give kakashi eyes at all. These are in fact Kakashi’s eyes with the MS.
For all intents and purposes, Obito turned Kakashi into a Uchiha.
You can tell Sasuke doesn’t like this. He may try to kill Kakashi now. Sasuke holds his clan and their powers very close.
Muhhahahahaha!!! Funny stuff this chapter. Very funny stuff.
Before I start let me just say that I’M GLAD KAKASHI GOT THOSE CRAZY EYES!! LOL!!
My reasoning is purely bias of course. I guess I’m glad because I would have hated the series to end with Kakashi one of the top five characters in the series (IMO of course) dumbed down like he was the last few chapters.
Now that that’s said, here comes the funny part.
So let me get this straight, our “never say die” Uchiha Obito was in the pure world. He used his sharingan to transport out of the pure world into a body composed of ashes. Then as I agree with darthuchiha, he turned Kakashi into a Uchiha. AND he did alllll this without using any hand signs! Hilarious!!
I’m pretty sure Kakashi will explain how all this happen. (At least I hope.) But even with the BEST explanation….this has got to be the craziest thing I’ve seen in this manga. I bet even Kish himself didn’t see this coming. That’s why it is funny to me. Nobody could have predicted this outcome because it was completely unorthodox. Kish threw all the rules out on this chapter. From now on, there are no more rules. Anything can happen now. What’s next Sakura will find out she has hidden powers of the Uzumaki clan and bind Kaguya with Kushina’s power.
One piece: Not much to report on this chapter. I’m kinda disappointed that Oda isn’t showing the fight between Sabo and Fujitora. Where the heck are Sanji and Chopper?
“I might not die when you think I will, but even when I do……I don’t.”
THis chapter has been one of the weirdest and most troll chapters i have ever read in naruto lol. So not only can kakashi now wield two ms sharingan (when his body before had trouble handling one ms with no susanno) but now he can use sussanno flawlessly without zero training and o yea his chakra reserves r replenished or something? I dont even have to go into how ridiculous this chapter was lol. Obito defied death and literally came back to kakashi in order to give kaakshi not 1, but 2 ms with apparently chakra boosts to boott. Like immortal said the best explanation will not even come close to explaining this… I cant wait to hear someone try and defend this move for kakashi lol. It will be highly entertaining.
@gentle i woudlnt say stunned. I would say in disbelief that kishi would be this dumb to write a chapter like this
Didn’t I comment a few chapters back about how new eyes came with a manual, and no explanation was needed, lol. We’re going to get the cliche line” *detailed description of new jutsu*This is my ocular ability.”
You guys are totally missing it, but Kishi just threw it at us so I don’t blame you. Obito’s chakra is driving the MS, which is why the effect is temporary.
This was set up by the following:
1. Itachi temporarily giving Sasuke his MS for one Amaterasu.
2. Hagoromo crossing the barrier between pure world and impure.
3. Kamui travels between many different dimensions.
The one thing that is really out of nowhere is Susanoo mastery but what can I say? It is equivalent to Sasuke knowing how to use his rinnegan and Naruto knowing how to revive people.
LMAO!!!…strap on your seat belt bro,don’t think we’ve seen the last of obito.you think the rasengans, childori,slashing,crushing,missing heart mutiple bijuu extractions couldn’t kill this guy,not even DEATH can kill this dude.damn hands up hands up for obito. hahaha
I think he has officially surpassed Orochimaru’s troll death total.
At this point, Obito has the most useful set of eyes out of all the ones ever shown in Naruto, and that is saying something considering how well Nagato and Itachi used theirs.
@ripcord: for 1 we dont know that this is temporary as there has been nothing to state this. For another tihng dimensions and death should seriously be different things… if thats not the case than how come minatos chakra or jiryias chakra never contacted or helped naruto out through the years? The only minato help came cause mintao himself sealed some of his and kushinas chakra to make a kind of projeciton of sorts. what makes obito so special? As for the naruto/sasuke masteries the slight difference lies in that fact that reviviing looks to be similar to transferring chakra from one to another and narutos chakra would appear to be juiced on HGH or senju dna. Sasuke has had ms and knowing how to use the rinnengan should have been more effort but again its a upgrade from teh sharingan so its in the same family or jutsu so basically its slightly more believable sasuke can pull it off. Kakashi has literally created something that it took sasuke a while to be able to do and sasuke is a full blooded uchiha. Kakashi pulled sussano out of his ass and somehow managed to use it flawlessly? sorry calling bs on that one
Just read the chapter,it seems susano’o is a general MS ability after all then its just the single eye abilities(amaterasu tsukuyomi kamui kagastuchi shusui genjutsu.. etc)that are unique to users. kakashi susano’o was pretty cool still having his scar and everything,
Its been said so many times,that those who watch and not read the manga shouldn’t cause any ruckus,you are easily one of those ppl.nothing new was done this chapter.everything done here has been shown before and there is almost no need for an explanation(even if kishi is going to a waste a page or two giving it to the like of you anyway)
First off from naruto part 1,it was stated that the only thing stopping kakashi with his high skills from copying every and any jutsu was either high level of chakra or kekkei genkai
-he got both this chapter
Why was the susano’o perfect right off the butt?….well not only was it perfect,adding the wings and everything it was a complete rip-off of sasuke’s susano’o that coupled with naruto’s statement about kakashi being the copy ninja proves it was copied from sasuke and when kakashi copies a jutsu he ain’t copying half of it
-like zabuza’s water dragaon,lee’s lotus, rasengan or the many 1000 jutsu he copied that made him worthy of his nickname
Obito back from the dead-one thing the pain arc and kakashi meeting his father established “chapter ago” is that there is sort of a ninja heaven. which is connected to the real world via dimensions seeing as nagato with his eye tech could open the dimension and rip out the souls of those he just killed.and few chapters ago it was shown obito kamui had the power not only to his dimension but could invade other people’s dimension.
-so obito being able to bring his chakra/soul back is hax, yes.but not completely a lost out of nowhere thing you deem it to be
Point of correction kakashi didn’t receive a chakra boost(like kurama)its more like he received an uchiha-type chakra,which means almost no sharingan chakra trouble
I don’t know who hinted that itachi is on a higher level of skill than kakashi but that is so untrue.between the exceptional skilled genius of itachi, sasuke and minato.being able to do so much with so little,kakashi was skilled than most “full-blood uchiha” and was chosen to train itachi and sasuke.IMO kakashi is the most skilled person in this manga and if its a matter of skill,kakashi surpasses itachi and sasuke by far
I just also wanna add Hagoromo and Obito are the only people so farwas to cross between the pure and impure world on their own, and they happened to be previous ten tailed jinjurruki. Hagoromo gave naruto and sasuke his powers beyond the grave too, didn’t he? Sasuke didn’t even have senju DNA, and now he’s a legit Rinnegan user, not just implanted eyes like Nagato.
And it helps that Kakashi has been using the sharingan for most of his life, and, thanks to this war, as even said he’s gotten the hang of using Kamui so it doesn’t tire him as much and he can be more flexible and precise.
These may have played a part in how this happened. It was unexpected(at least it was for me) but at this point, not far-fetched.
and I agree with token on this, there’s no telling if Kakashi’s new abilities or sasuke/naruto’s are temporary or not, but going by their conversation, at least for kakashi, I think it’s permanent.
@sannin u say i dont pay attention to the manga?? Am i the one saying kakahis trained itachi!??! rofl itachi didnt have a sensei for most of his life if at all. Kakashi was limited not by high chakra but his RESERVES. His body was unfit for a KEKKEI GENKAI like the sharingan and his body couldnt handle it. Not only that but for most of kakashis life his prowess came because of the sharingan. Not before it ( hence man of 1000 jutsus cause he could COPY the jutsus and even though he was still considered supremely gifted comapred to others his own age… where as itachi was considered supremely gifted compared to his and most of the older GENERATION so to compare kakashi to itachi is laughably ridiculous and in now way supported by the manga u claim to read… remember when oro came along in the chunnin exams and kakashi was frozen with fear? while itachi at a much younger age literally tore oro a new one by not even moving a muscle? yea kakashi is better than itachi all right rofl) Maybe u need to define skill.. is it intelligence? itachi by many including someone who knew both kakashi and itachi (jiryia) were blown away by how supremely gifted itachi was. Not only that but he was a tactical genius, defeating kakashi in a matter of seconds using genjutsu with his fingers and leaving him hospital ridden for days without layin a hand on him. sAnnin you are clearly being a class A troll cause any [person who read this manga would know saying kakashi is superior to itachi in any way is simply stupid and idiotic. Also the susanno cannot be copied by the sharingan lol. Man do u read the manga at all? Susanno is considered to be a KEKKAI GENKEI which is something the sharingan can not copy. I could go on about how quesitonable ur statements were but work is busy and I dont have that much time. Ill correct other things later for u so u can know what ur reading
@darth sasuke has used the sharingan since he was younger at well, is a full blooded uchiha, a prodigy, considered a genius by others and even he had to train for the perfect susanno (mind u sasuke already had training on using regular susanno and even than he had to do it by parts) and now kakashi with no prior experience weilding it can form the perfect version? im sorry thats bs no matter how u cut it. Being a genius doesnt mean he should be able to do things his body cant support (kamui spam for chapters on chapters when previously he couldnt do more than 4-6 at a time) and being a genius shouldnt mean that he can acheive a form so quickly without any knowledge or experience on how to make even the basic form
” u say i dont pay attention to the manga?? Am i the one saying kakahis trained itachi!??! ”
There,am sure you will see how kakashi was chosen to guide itachi and sasuke in the anbu and in the development of their doujutsu,while you are at it,see how kakashi graduated from the academy at 5 became a chunnin just a year later at 6 while in itachi’s case he graduated at 7 became chunnin at 10.also kakashi is the one called the prodigy of his generation(that’s in 30 yrs shadowing both minato and itachi)
“Not only that but for most of kakashis life his prowess came because of the sharingan. Not before it”
How hopelessly wrong again the above feat I mentioned,of kakashi being a prodigy graduating at 5(the youngest ever graduate),chunnin at 6(youngest ever chunnin) and jounin at 13 were all pre-sharingan,the sharingan had a downside too reducing his reserves and making him unable to use/learn big moves else he would have being a genius either way with or without the sharingan
As regards kakashi freezing at oro and itachi defeating kakashi with a MS genjutsu
You should note I said kakashi was way skilled than itachi not way stronger than him(itachi).those feat were performed by an MS itachi to a mere sharingan chakra struggling kakashi and honestly its like giving itachi an ak-47 and expecting kakashi to stand up to him with a catapult…of course it was a different story when kakashi upgraded to MS he was able to hold his own perfectly in their second encounter with just one beginners MS. oh and I’ve never seen jiraiya blown away by itachi “supreme giftedness” or whatever,all I remember from their encounter is itachi sprinting(not running,sprinting!)away from jiraiya despite it being a 2 on 1 battle
” Maybe u need to define skill.. is it intelligence?”
I obviously need to define skill cuz as it is you are almost cluless.when I said kakashi had more skill I meant,
Its kakashi figuring out most villian weakness which led to their untimely defeat
Its Kakashi being able to use all the sharingan abilities when some full blooded Uchiha can’t awaken it
Kakashi being the only person skillfull enough to use the sharingan ability to copy almost any jutsu to the fullest which earned him his name,despite other uchihas(including itachi) with sharingans around
Kakashi being able to awaken the mangekyo a feat only done by legendary uchihas
Kakashi being able to master kamui using it on par with the original owner obito(only weakness being stamina)
Kakashi despite his sharingan/chakra problems which hinders him from being uber-powered still able to hold his own or support against any and every uber powered person in the series
If he could be this skillfull with the sharingan when not an uchiha,only leave you wondering what he would do if he was indeed an uchiha
And this is what kakashi is like when he is given just as much as itachi(both MS and uchiha chakra).if he was almost on par with itachi,with just one MS and deficient chakra,just how much stronger than itachi will he be with two MS and uchiha chakra?
Hope you’ve seen how kakashi is skilled than itachi so you could either read the manga or continue “ROFL” it just makes us sit back and your laughing face look” simply stupid and idiotic” token-san
@token…well back to the story
“Also the susanno cannot be copied by the sharingan lol. Man
do u read the manga at all? Susanno is considered to be a KEKKAI GENKEI which is something the sharingan can not copy. ”
Very true a kekkei genkai can’t be copied. Which begs the question why can’t a kekkei genkai(or even some simple element jutsu ) be copied??
simple because you don’t have the cells or chakra nature or in this case a pair of MS,that’s the only reason a kekkei genkai can’t be copied and that’s why kakashi could copy the susano’o after getting kekkei genkai,making naruto shoutout to kopy ninja kakashi.
still in doubt or feel like arguing that a kekkei genkai can’t be copied? here comes the bomb.
the fact that madara pulled out mutiple hashirama wood jutsu(a kekkei genkai) is called what then or maybe you didn’t read those chapters too, wouldn’t be suprised.I’ll say it again nothing real new happened this chapter, read not watch the manga and don’t come here criticizing over nothing
If for pointing these out am a class A troll then you better ease up on being the over active president of the(what’s that word GP used again)”naruto bitching book club” lol
o boy sannin u are actually taking anime filler as canon??!?!?!?! wow lol i dont even need to say much except the anime is not official canon and fillers in particular are not in any way official. Any reference u use in regards to the itachi/kakashi dynamic is only in anime, not manga. therefore it is not official and therefore not canon. That was easy for that part.
And u wanna talk prodigy? how about the fact that itachi was the youngest captain of anbu ever? yes even younger than precious kakashi.
Itachi ran from jiryia cause he had no reason or need to fight jiryia. Itachi wanted to cause no harm to konoha and facing jiryia was not a big component of his plan. After seeing what itachi is capable of we now know that he would have won that fight had he stayed.
The second time kakashi fought itachi? r u referring to the time that kakashi faced off against a clone with only a portion of itachis strength? and when he had naruto and sakura to help him out? yea thats an impressive feat (sarcasm btw considering the clone had about 30% of itachis power rofl).
KAkashis intelligence? u have itachi who brought down kabuto, came up with the plan to stop nagato’s edo, itachi thought ahead months in advance by giving naruto not only a way to help sasuke if the time came but as a back up would help out in a different way if the situation presented itself? WHat notable opponent has kakashi defeated? last i saw kakashi against a couple pein paths he was defeated while itachi was te reason for defeating edo nagato that possessed all paths powers.
Use all the sharingan abliities? I have yet to see him use amaterasu and him usin susanno is a complete hack cause he has zero experience with it and yet can bust out a perfect susanno on a whim.
ALL sharingan users can copy jutsus rofl really? this is basic naruto stuff. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sharingan
You wanna kno y other uchihas like itachi didnt bother copying so many jutsus? they dont need to lol. Kakashi needs all of those moves to have a chance while itachi outsmarts his opponents using jutsus everyone knows he has and yet no one can stop (like against kakashi he said dont look at itachis eyes and yet kakashi in his infinite wisdom thought he could go head to head in a genjutsu showdown cause he had a sharingan… not the brightest move for a genius).
Awakening the ms means ur legendary? obito awakened it so apparently he is legendary?
Kamui didnt take much practice to use… u look at something, concentrate and it goes bye bye. it wasnt intricate in any way, much like raikiri which is a basic attack charged with chakra thats useless without a boost of some kind (again some genius makes a move that he cant use effectively until he got a sharingan).
against uber powered opponents he has a horrible track record:
kakashi vs itachi: we know the story
kakashi vs oro: nothing cause he was paralyzed with fear
kakashi vs pein: faced 2 bodies, defeated within minutes and almost died
kakashi vs obito: narutos talk no jutsu was the most potent ability in the arsenal and kakashi almost died a couple times had it not been for naruto saving him with his new chakra cloak
thats a sample. When he faces uber powerful ppl he becomes a spectator or throws in a quick “they r on a different level!”
and u wanna throw out what ifs? what if itachi was healthy and not sick? we could play what ifs forever but fact is thats not how it works. kakashi isnt a uchiha so throwing out imagine this or that is pointless. its like using anime filler to make a point.
imagine how much stronger itachi would be if he lived as long as kakashi and had no illness. itachi was a few years younger and yet already surpassed most everyone in the narutovers including naruto/sasuke and was on par if not slightly stronger than pein and was considered to be as wise as a kage (something kakashi was never praised as). Say what u want but kakashi is simmply not in itachis class. U fan boy over him cause u like him fact is i lok at the facts and the facts show when against elite competition itachi comes out ahead. Itachi has faced nagato, kabuto with sage mode, oro and all three were defeated by itachi or with his support. How many on that list has kakashi defeated?
madar could use wood jutsu cause he injected himself witth dna, turning his body into a semi senju lol. Sharingans cannot copy kekkai genkis so kakashis sussanno is his own not copied. to ahve to explain the difference between a sharingan copy and madara’s first powers is so simple and yet u dont get it… madara turned his body into a pseudo- senju body therefore he was able to use wood jutsus. The sharingan can copy jutsus not kg and it has been stated it cant by ANYONE. not just kakashi but NO UCHIHA CAN COPY A KEKKAI GENKEI. its sad i have to type that in caps but i guess i do. Kakashi couldnt do it cause NO UCHIHA OR PERSON CAN COPY IT WITH TEH SHARINGAN
read naruto at all? ill simplify: injections of senju dna=kekkei genkei
Sharingan cannot copy kekkei so therefore madara didnt copy he injected his body. got it? or do i need to spoon feed u this one too
“o boy sannin u are actually taking anime filler as canon??!?!?!?! wow lol i dont even need to say much except the anime is not official canon and fillers in particular are not in any way official. ”
No not taking them as cannon,the fact that yamato and itachi were under kakashi was mentioned in the manga.and I knew that long before the kakashi filler anime arc aired.all the filler anime arc did was make a story around real manga fact
“The second time kakashi fought itachi? r u referring to the time that kakashi faced off against a clone with only a portion of itachis strength? and when he had naruto and sakura to help him out? yea thats an impressive feat (sarcasm btw considering the clone had about 30% of itachis power rofl).”
It may have been a pseudo-itachi fighting but you would also note that kakashi faced him off with just a clone and defeated him with just 3 moves.maybe you mentioned sakura as a joke but all naruto did was get caught in a genjutsu and land a fatal rasengan.which the real kakashi would have executed perfectly anyway but for the sake of team work.not to mention that kakashi was confident when he showed itachi his MS meaning he was at least confident that he could withstand tsukuyomi this time.if it were the real itachi and tsukuyomi didn’t work,he would have being in for a hell of a fight.the first encounter, kakashi with one sharingan was able to Batlle on par with this gifted full-blooded uchiha and see through all his moves,the battle only became one-sided when itachi released his MS.
“KAkashis intelligence? u have itachi who brought down kabuto, came up with the plan to stop nagato’s edo, itachi thought ahead months in advance by giving naruto not only a way to help sasuke if the time came but as a back up would help out in a different way if the situation presented itself? WHat notable opponent has kakashi defeated? last i saw kakashi against a couple pein paths he was defeated while itachi was te reason for defeating edo nagato that possessed all paths powers.”
Those opponets mentioned,what itachi does is overpower his opponet with his jutsu,he doesn’t figure out a crucial weakness and use his little ability to defeat or almost defeat his enemy as kakashi would.it seems you are misplacing the arguement,so I’ll put in quotation marks, in my and obviously everyone’s opinion “ITACHI WAS STRONGER THAN KAKASHI”my arguement is kakashi is more skilled/adept/talented/has more dexterity at using things than not just itachi but anyone in the manga for.ya itachi is stronger than kakashi only because of his MS weapons,when kakashi is giving those same weapons(this isn”t a what if game,its happening)how about he fight those opponets now.
“ALL sharingan users can copy jutsus rofl really? this is basic naruto stuff.”
You are doing that thing were you ROFL and look stupid again..one of the ability of the sharingan(not just kakashi’s all sharingans) is to copy jutsu.you should do well and read the link you gave me but obviously you are not into reading so I’ll quote what the wiki says out for you.
“The Sharingan’s third and most well-known ability is that it grants the user the ability to copy almost any technique that he or she witnesses,”-by naruto wikia
“In order to reproduce a copied technique, however, one must have the necessary skill or ability to perform them.”-by naruto wikia…happy?
“You wanna kno y other uchihas like itachi didnt bother copying so many jutsus? they dont need to lol.”
No they didn’t have enough skill or ability to quoted from wiki and kakashi too, I mean who wouldn’t want to add to his arsenal of jutsu.
“madar could use wood jutsu cause he injected himself witth dna, turning his body into a semi senju lol. Sharingans cannot copy kekkai genkis so kakashis sussanno is his own not copied”
True true madara could perform wood jutsu because he gained the cell and ability to and the sharingan copies jutsu but the sharingan user uses it as its own even able to remodel it,kakashi’s susano is copied but its definitely his own since its formed from his chakra ..kakashi said he couldn’t copy haku ice-style “because” he(haku) had the “ability”(stress on because and ability) to combine wind and water chakra,those who just became pseudo-senju yamato,danzo,obito didn’t pull out perfect replications of hashirima’s home made jutsu for crying out loud madara even went as far as saying this is hashirama’s wood clone,this is hashirama’s wood dragon,this is hashirama’s forest emergence this is hashirama’s this and that.
you know the fact that naruto said “that’s why he’s called the copy ninja” when kakashi went susano’o and that madara pulled out hashirama’s wood jutsu was supposed to be checkmate that KG can be copied if and only if you have the ability…but you trying so hard and looking real desperate is almost admirable maybe pitiful really…so you could continue your pointless ranting about a topic that has proof from manga, anime, wikipedia and even fillers. lol
@token, on August 8, 2014 at 6:42 pm said: o boy sannin u are actually taking anime filler as canon??!?!?!?! wow lol i dont even need to say much except the anime is not official canon and fillers in particular are not in any way official.