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Naruto Chapter 681 : Kaguya’s tears

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Enjoy this weeks Naruto and plenty of room to chat in the comment section.

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  1. I am quite disappointed in the fast rewriting of history. The story has been changed so fast just by us being told “oh this is the truth this time” but how many times can it happen and still be believable. Black Zetsu didn’t have to reveal so much IMO it took away from so much of the previous story. Too bad. And Naruto will not last all that much longer since it is so obvious Kishi is wrapping up as fast as he can.

  2. really wish u guys would stop complaining about the way the story has been going. It disappoints me only because you guys fail to realize that the story has been meant to have a deeper meaning from the moment we were made to believe that Itachi was suppose to be this evil villain to the point that we were made to believe that Pain was the kingpin behind the whole akatsuki. If Shippuden aspect has shown us anything is that Pawns are in an abundance. To me that just shows that u can never believe what u see. Like they always said u have to see beneath the underneath. To me that has been a sign of Kishi’s genius and I for one refuse to complain. In fact its made the story that much more dynamic because it proves that you can never think that you just know wholeheartedly how this story is going to end. I mean guys it is a war and one thing about war is it is never symmetrical and clean and simple. There are always big surprises that await you at every corner. Some may say that the story is moving too fast where I believe it is quite the contrary, The speed of new information that we have been gathering has shown, in my estimation, just how truly deep the secrets of the ninja world go. The beauty of it all is that we still have a ways to go and I for one am oozing with anticipation. Lol Ill leave my rant at that

  3. I think what alot of ppl have a problem with is that for chapters upon chapters kishi has just spat and generally made us look stupid by taking such weird and odd turns…. from black zetsu being the “mastermind’ behind even madara, kaguya who up until around 20 chapters ago wasnt even MENTIONED, its all just adding up as kishi just adding for the sake of adding. The itachi turn was brilliant cause not only did it make perfect sense, but no one saw it coming. It was so surprising but it made sense. All the little hints along the way, whether it be itachi never showing any intent to kill even when it looked like he was trying to kill was brilliant story telling. All that has happened since this war is sad attempts at swerves. U cant swerve readers just to swerve them…. to make the final villain a character who before the war started was never mentioned at all is just either lazy on kishis part or just a sign hes more interested in profits of a longer arc than in good story telling. WE have gone from a story about ninjas to a story about superheros with incredible speeds, who can fly, teleport, and in some cases bend time and space…it sounds like marvel or dc comics now and its just not the same and frankly its worse for that

  4. I mean kaguya is making a zetsu army… FOR WHAT!?!?! if the whole world are zetsus who is she facing? Aliens? come on

  5. omg… how often are the origin story going to change?? Just end the the talking about who did what and how it´s “acuallty” was, its become ridiculus how often its changed

  6. Hey, check out the half year sale of manga sold in Japan. Attack On Titan is now the most popular manga series in Japan. One Piece is no longer the top champion. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-06-03/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2014-first-half/.75177

    (opinion on the top mangas)
    Attack on Titan- personally in my opinion is one of the best new mangas out there and one of my fav of all time behind only Bleach, Death Note and Darker Than Black.

    Kuroko’s basketball- Funny how this manga series is acually the top 3 most popular even though basketball is not as popular as baseball over there. However, anyone who love sports or is a fan of basketball will be a huge fan of the competitive and compellingly fast pace moving action of the basketball sequence of the manga.

    One Piece- The story is interesting for its on going adventurous story telling. Besides, who can forget a name like Luffy? One of the most memorable names in manga history.

    Naruto- Naruto still has an interesting story that Builds up anticipation of what’s going to happen next. The characters are completely unforgettable. Even the ones that are annoying will still bring us back reading the chapters.

    Bleach- The art work, character development and plot is pure gold. Just like One Piece and Naruto, Bleach earned its place as the top 6 highest sold mangas in Japan’s history and the top 3 of being the most popular manga series in America.

    Hunter x Hunter- THIS MANGA LITERALLY FELL OFF THE MAP!!

  7. Check out the half year sale of manga sold in Japan. Attack On Titan is now the most popular manga series in Japan. One Piece is no longer the top champion. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-06-03/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2014-first-half/.75177

    (opinion on the top mangas)
    Attack on Titan- personally in my opinion is one of the best new mangas out there and one of my fav of all time behind only Bleach, Death Note and Darker Than Black.

    Kuroko’s basketball- Funny how this manga series is acually the top 3 most popular even though basketball is not as popular as baseball over there. However, anyone who love sports or is a fan of basketball will be a huge fan of the competitive and compellingly fast pace moving action of the basketball sequence of the manga.

    One Piece- The story is interesting for its on going adventurous story telling. Besides, who can forget a name like Luffy? One of the most memorable names in manga history.

    Naruto- Naruto still has an interesting story that Builds up anticipation of what’s going to happen next. The characters are completely unforgettable. Even the ones that are annoying will still bring us back reading the chapters.

    Bleach- The art work, character development and plot is pure gold. Just like One Piece and Naruto, Bleach earned its place as the top 6 highest sold mangas in Japan’s history and the top 3 of being the most popular manga series in America.

    Hunter x Hunter- THIS MANGA LITERALLY FELL OFF THE MAP!!

  8. For some reason I thought plothole finders like my friend @token would be happy with this chapter. It does clear up a lot of plotholes if nothing else. and something tell me this is the true history and its changing no more….just like acesplex said, I think the story is pretty cool,kishi’s someone who wants his story to always have a deeper meaning,to always be emotional and dramatic, scenes like neji’s death which I was really pissed with,turned out pretty cool in the anime. One thing about naruto its not all brawls like bleach or funny and stupidly adventurous like one piece but its major point is story. That’s why naruto wins best story of the big three and after all this yapping crapping and b*tching its still the most popular anime\manga in the world right now.

  9. @nss7 actually its called hunterxhiatus now,that manga was really something in the days togashi really ruined it.

  10. @Sannins
    It’s surprising. Last year, that manga was top 5 in manga sold despite not releasing a new chapter. This year, the manga has greatly disappeared in sales and almost none existing. I heard the author was highly lazy with his work.

  11. @token
    ” kishi has just spat and generally made us look stupid by taking such weird and odd turns…. from black zetsu being the “mastermind’ behind even madara, kaguya who up until around 20 chapters ago wasnt even MENTIONED”

    They weren’t odd turns.You are tottaly the one at fault not to figure out something was fishy about the sage sealing the juubi and then write a full instruction manual on how to revive it.someone deep down in history wanted the juubi revived,it wasn’t the sage then who
    You have to hand it to smart guys like darthuchiha for following the story and actually predicting all of this,am sure if you spent half the time you use looking for plotholes and criticizing to actually follow the story you wouldn’t feel swerved

    “to make the final villain a character who before the war started was never mentioned at all is just either lazy on kishis part”

    Hello?still don’t get It, black zetsu is kaguya and has being here with us from the start,I even once read a theory 100 chapters ago of the black rods which were part of the juubi was the juubi’s way of controlling ppl to revive itself and it isn’t far from the truth now

    ” WE have gone from a story about ninjas to a story about superheros with incredible speeds, who can fly, teleport, and in some cases bend time and space…”
    Right I had problem with this too but I think the key is to stop actually looking at this like its naruto,this is naruto shippuden,ppl don’t weave hand seals for minutes to do something as meagre as a water dragon anymore,naruto isn’t the first anime to take such drastic steps and still turn out awesome,if kishi wants to make his ninjas fly teleport and fire nukes.fine but the main problem here is kishi only gives power-ups to his favourites and leave the rest hanging

  12. This reminds me of the Final Fantasy video games. Majority of the game gives you a clear cut bad guy who’s at the head of everything that goes wrong in the story, then near the end of the game you discover he was a lackey/puppet etc…and you wind up having to defeat a God, who just now gets an appearance.

  13. @sannin rofl it has nothing to do with following the story…. everything that happened in this chapter has made the previous things told to us pointless… not only that how about the whole zetsu army? Mind explaining to me what exactly the target is for this army? Aliens? Who? and if u ask anyone 9/10 ppl will say the original naruto was better than shippuden… and the reason for that is not everything was overpowered or just pure power moves. From naruto/neji, sasuke/gaara, rock lee/gaara some of the best fights in naruto history happpendin in part 1, not when powers involved flying and teleportation but good old fashioned NINJA fighting. Last I read we were reading a ninja manga. And sannin u clearly dont get where i am going with the kaguya statements so ill break it down like i guess i have to… ok so who was the first villain? oro. After oro was gone akatsuki came along. who was their leader? Pein. but wait it wasnt pein it was tobi. O wait it wasnt tobi it was obito. O wait it wasnt obito it was madara. O wait it wasnt madara it was black zetsu. Are u kidding me? And dont give me that it should have been fishy that the sage sealed the juubi than gave instructions on how to revive it… not only did no one EVER question that until the last 20-30 chapters (if anyone mentioned it odd that the tablet was written and had an inkling that it was tampered with I would lvoe to hear it..), but half of the mangas/stories involve someone being dumb enough to write how to use certain techs/moves. Take the edo tensei; that tech is highly dangerous in the wrong hands and yet somehow oro learned it and in turn taught it to kabuto. Not only that but others knew how the tech worked. If tobirama was smart y bother telling anyone how to do the jutsu? its clearly dangerous and has high potential for war purposes and casualties and yet he apparently told ppl or wrote down somewhere how to do it cause otherwise there would be no story. black zetsu is not the main villain… he is KAGUYAS will. black zetsu for al intents and purposes is Kaguya. Having black zetsu be behind all of this since about the beginning of chakra is just far reaching. The story now resembles NOTHING that made naruto fun to read. you go from intellect and strategy to all out brawls using the same op move after op move. O and seeing as how the black zetsu chagned the tablet info doesnt that just rub u the wrong way that after EVERYTHING we heard aobut it from tobi to kabuto to madara we now have no idea what is true and whats not? Kishi can literally say one thing, than 2 chapters later say sike just kidding it was such and such, than the very next week say o sike again it was what we originally thought.
    @darth yea but we dont get 5-7 different “Leaders”… final fantasy designers knew that overpopulating the villain tree is never a good idea and since pein was introduced we have had 4 or 5 “Main” villains who just turned out to be another puppet. Not 1, not 2, not 3….. If you want ot do the whole puppets routine fine, just dont do it every villain along the way

  14. @sannin Kaguya was never mentioned ever till about 15-20 chapters ago. after 680+ chapters of naruto, the big bad villain is introduced after having been introduced for 20 chapters or so. Black zetsu is not the main villain as he is kaguyas will so kaguya for all intents and purposes is the main villain

  15. and all of the good mangas stay true to what they r… whether it be dbz, fma, one piece etc. the power levels increase but what made them fun to read/watch did not. You can have increased power levels and still make a good read that doesnt entirely focus on overpowered characters. Dbz as overpowred as the characters could be it drew off of what they did in the first place: Ki blasts and maniuplation to form larger beams etc. In naruto u go from hand seals to sasuke and naruto using moves that require zero-1 hand seal at most to do anything (susanno requires no hand seal, amaterasu requires no hand seal, rasengan requires no hand seal, naruto flying requires no hand seal, clones require i easy hand seal, chidori is no hand seals…)

  16. @token
    “(if anyone mentioned it odd that the tablet was written and had an inkling that it was tampered with I would lvoe to hear it..)”
    At first I”ll answer that so hear it,the fact that the stone may have been altered isn’t todays discussion,I could actually dig it out from a 100 places but I brought up a few
    This was a disscusion from on 03/06/2014 that’s 3 chapters ago
    http://www.google.com/url?q=http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D485936&sa=U&ei=P6-kU7LVLdKS0AXm9YDACQ&ved=0CBgQFjAA&sig2=fZ5Mq9qCORgD9x8b6z_a_A&usg=AFQjCNEAftpXCQ1PLPhm8IC-qMo7h3oVsQ
    It contains a lot of OP comments but let me help you single out the important ones
    “Moreover, the tablet apparently explains the progression of the eye technique from regular sharingan to Rinnegan. If the sage only had the Rinnegan, how the heck did he now the devolved stages that would result and how to re-progress them to Rinnegan?
    Its hard to believe that Kishi would have Madara alter the contents of the tablet, but the sage solely writing it has not made sense for a LONG TIME(stress on the long time), its a form of plot hole really.”
    Here’s another comment
    “The Uchiha tablet existed prior to Madara and the methods to interpret are not easily come by but there is definetly manipulation at work. My thought is that it contains a warning of who the true antagonist is and the antagonist knows it.”
    Now this is so spot-on, its almost scary.but these were just 3 chapters ago if you want more older comments doubting the uchiha tablet here goes
    These were from last year
    http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=345440
    “Madara could as well replace the original stone with his own words,to pass down his will to the young Uchihas.
    Some of the things that were know from the tablet Itachi and Sasuke read has been turned down or were false by information we got from elder characters that lived by that time (to obtain MS you need to kill your best friend/love and despair is what makes the eye upgrade).
    Maybe Kishi is foreshadowing something(keyword being foreshadowing something).
    Or maybe we over-think it and it’s just a mistake”
    “I think Madara wrote some more on it. Altered it, if not, it’s a different stone all together.. :D”(some even thought it was a diFferent stone)
    “The secrets of Madara’s body and how to advance the Sharingan. This was all supposedly written down by the So6P?.”(My thoughts exactly)

    If these are aren’t enough we could always ask the regulars@ nss7,darthuchiha,UTI,gentle,naruto101.ever had any doubt about the uchiha tablets???
    Sorry for spamming whoever is in charge I really needed to prove a point

  17. ” From naruto/neji, sasuke/gaara, rock lee/gaara some of the best fights in naruto history happpendin in part 1,”
    Really??,come on those fights were great but you telling me those fight could best chiyo(sakura)vs sasori,itachi vs sasuke,raikage vs sasuke,sasuke vs bee,jiraiya vs pein,freaking pein vs naruto and edo madara vs alliance is just you kidding right?

    “ok so who was the first villain? oro. After oro was gone akatsuki came along. who was their leader? Pein. but wait it wasnt pein it was tobi. O wait it wasnt tobi it was obito. O wait it wasnt obito it was madara. O wait it wasnt madara it was black zetsu. Are u kidding me?”
    Ok first of all,if you are going to create a series as long as naruto and stick with one villian,you really have no skill in writing,and then after pein was tobi made us believe was madara,but someone of madara’s age throwing backflips,wearing a mask,has a missing sharingan like kakashi and has some sort of attraction to kakashi,I think it came as no suprise that it was obito.the only sudden turn honestly was kaguya
    And you couldn’t found a more bad example than edo tensei,edo tensei may be unforgivable forcing ppl to fight with their loved ones and all but aren’t ressurected ppl happy to fight against their enemies not to mention the need to collect information like sasuke did and wait they are still helping now being immune to infinite tsukuyomi,so what’s entirely bad in the 2nd leaving that behind and how the heck does that compare with the sage leaving instruction manuals for a sure armaggedon.
    Lastly kaguya is basically black zetsu it comes out of her body and has all her memories almost like clone minus physical form and battle prowess as the original

  18. “Dbz as overpowred as the characters could be it drew off of what they did in the first place:”
    Really?what they did in the first place?now am not a fan of dragonball but I did start it just never finished it,but when I watched the begining,the characters then weren’t half as strong as the current naruto but now am hearing of characters who could toast juubi in minutes, destroy moons and could regenerate from being blasted into tiny bits.
    “In naruto u go from hand seals to sasuke and naruto using moves that require zero-1 hand seal at most to do anything (susanno requires no hand seal, amaterasu requires no hand seal, rasengan requires no hand seal, naruto flying requires no hand seal, clones require i easy hand seal, chidori is no hand seals…)”
    I think you are missing something here,the real ninjas are still there the likes of shikamaru tenten ino sakura and co the power levels stop at the kages who still weave handseals by the way.right now we are reaching the end of naruto series and naruto and sasuke have being chosen to defeat a God trying to destroy the world,defeating a “god” capable of ending the world with shurikens doesn”t really make sense,naruto and sasuke are just on borrowed without that naruto highest is sage mode with high strength and big rasengans and sasuke is just a EMS with a sussano and amaterasu
    Sussano and amaterasu needs the sharingan not a handseal more like the MS does the seal, rasengan never required handseals,childori only needed the combination once after which you could spam it.handseals is a way of gathering chakra or molding chakra,if you have good chakra control and enough skill with the technique you almost don’t need it.and all we see these days are those sort of skilled shinobi don’t you agree?not like those who use handseals don’t exist

  19. @Sannin

    I don’t know about everyone else, but I noticed something was wrong about the Uchiha tablet around the time the Sage was talking to naruto and Sasuke about his mother. It didn’t quite mesh with the story Madara told the good guys about the tree. Madara had no idea about Kaguya involvement or even who she was, an yet he knew about the juubi’s other form and its chakra fruits? That’s optimism(naivety) that trumps even the first. Or that he possibly had his own agenda.

    I never expected Kaguya to show up though.

  20. @sannins

    Honestly, I completely missed the fact that the tablet could have been altered, but I have wondered why would the sage write down how to summon the juubi if it’s the ultimate weapon, and he wanted to protect people from it. That was completely counter-intuitive.

  21. Well I don’t like getting into argument about plot,but since I was asked,I’ll go with seda on this one,kishi didn’t need to give us these big reveals in the first place.we don’t need to know who the hell created this and who brought about that and certainly didn’t need to know about shinju chakra tree or whatever,it was just like,why the hell you have to make things so complicated.I was happy with just juubi and the sage being almost a myth.kaguya is a good outcome,I mean she’s fucking badass but madara already had all qualities of the final villian.
    right about the tablet.I always found it odd that the sage would write how to revive the juubi but then the bijuu were always meant to come together under a certain someone-sage prophecy.

  22. You missed my point about the story change:

    It happened too fast.

    Remember when we used to get spoilers and after a while you could tell one was fake because it read like it was 10 chapters condensed into one. Well the last 20 chapters or so should really have been 200 in terms of story progression (by no means am I advocating for the war to be stretched out…).

    I am not saying the story itself is bad, I think it would have been more believable if we had a 2nd timeskip after Naruto lost the Kyuubi or something like that. Then a shift of gears for differen villains would make for better story telling. Instead it just reads like a fan fic now which makes it obvious that Kishi is wrapping it up. It’s a shame really because the story is a good one, and so are the characters. It’s just rushed.

    The odd thing to me about it is that Kishi dragged out the “who is Tobi” question for so long and now we are handed answers left and right? Just strange and hard to get excited about it because of the fast pacing.

  23. @ripcord….you know,I am in total agreement that everything is rushed and its obvious he’s wrapping things up.kishi did say he was bringing naruto series to an end in 2 years and its been 1 year and some months. I think if kishi was looking to create new plots,he would have taken those openings and make it 200 chapters but right know he’s just digging up history and clearing plotholes. maybe he’s on a company deadline and things such as making 200 more chapters are not up to him

  24. Finally I have a little time to comment on the story so far…

    Naruto- This was a strange insightful chapter. Basically we have the whole ninja story line summed up in one chapter. The only thing I find odd with all this information is, what happen to the Hyuga clan? Okay the SSOP brother had the byakugan passed down to which is now known as the Hyuga clan. The SSOP had two sons one who possess the sharingan the other just awesome chakra. So I guess my question is, did the Hyuga clan just wasn’t important during the whole Uchiha/Senju drama? Oh well maybe I will never know the whole story.

    I see the discussion talking about the manga and I only have two gripes with the manga. First the NINJA theme is gone from the manga. When I first saw Naruto, it was awesome to see these “shinobi” in action. My favorite battle to this day is Zabuza/Kakashi. Why? Because truly it set the stage for the entire storyline. It was like this is what you can expect from the ninja world. Lately hand signs are gone (like Token said), other ninja themes are now deemed irrelevant (like the anbu black ops, and the whole world ending storyline). I just really don’t see with the beginning of the series to now if it was going to go in this direction. I guess what I am saying is what I expected the “ending” of Naruto to be like would involve all the ninja in some political move so to speak not a truly world ending phenomenon like this.

    My last gripe with Naruto is the fact I really don’t care what happens to the characters. That doesn’t mean I don’t like the characters, but after all this is over with, what’s next? Go back to the leaf village and resume business as usual. It would seem odd for that to happen now knowing the true origin of the ninja. Even Naruto’s dream of becoming hokage seems rather pointless now.

    Whew…..that felt good.

    One-piece- I hoping for a fight between Sabo and Fujitora! That would be sweet!! I guess that would mean that Luffy will fight Doffy all by his lonesome. It’s crazy to think that Luffy can take Doffy down by himself though. Oh I forgot, Law may end up helping him. Bartolomeo may help him as well. Sabo also might still join in. I just can’t wait to see how Doffy really fights!

  25. Apparently Sasuke got snatched into Hueco Mundo, lol.

  26. That’s messed up, fooling Kaguya like that. When’s the last time she’s been laid? Might have to dust herself off. Or maybe she’s an asexual.

    Can’t even imagine the look on jiraya’s face if he actually did watch that lol

  27. And shits about to get real serious in One Piece.

    Sabo’s facing an Admiral, and Luffy’s face to face with Doflamingo. I already can’t wait till next week.

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